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Stock ones work fine it’s a Jeep not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Joined
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Drilled and slotted rotors are EXCELLENT at reducing the weight of your wallet.... that's about it. Joined
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For your brake upgrade, the go to is black magic brake pads and centric premium rotors. If you have the coin, spring for the vanco big brake kit Joined Dec 16, 2018 · 69 Posts
It is a Jeep not a Corvette. Slotted rotors are ideal for high powered, corner handling sports cars that never see off road use. Yes, you may see some off road racing vehicles using them but you have to remember those vehicles are torn down after every race and things like rotors and pads are replaced. Stick with the tried and true... Joined May 22, 2010 · 1,054 Posts
As previously mentioned, I would not use drilled or slotted rotors on a Jeep. Joined Nov 13, 2016 · 242 Posts
If you go offroad at all dont do it... the slots and holes just fill with mud clay etc... Joined Dec 6, 2017 · 153 Posts
I just upgraded to the extremely popular Black Magic Brakes/Centric Rotors combination 2 weeks ago. It was truly worth every penny. One of the most noticeable upgrades I have ever done to a Jeep.
Joined May 27, 2013 · 7,445 Posts
Stock ones work fine it’s a Jeep not I hope you mean they work fine with OEM sized tires. stock definitely dont cut it when going to 33's or 35's. black magic brake pads and centric rotors are the best braking performance upgrade you can get without going to a big
brake kit. Drilled and slotted rotors work well at speed if your current setup is overheating, its not a problem 99.99% of TJ owners experience so the downside of trapping mud or pebbles is not worth the minimal benefit Joined Apr 29, 2013 · 19,046 Posts
Stock is ok up to 32.5 to 33 not really adequate beyond that The original rubi design was for 33 with stock brakes Drilled/slotted cool better with heavy weight and reduce unsprung weight neither a typical concern on a TJ setup Lots of components are marginal beyond 33 tires including bit not limited to brakes Sent from
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agreed, just didnt want the OP to think OEM brakes are good no matter the tire size. although, from my experience, my 03 rubi on 35's with bmb pads and centric rotors stopped better than the wife's 06 sport did when she was on 31's with OEM brakes
Joined Oct 5, 2013 · 4,836 Posts
Stock is ok up to 32.5 to 33 not really adequate beyond that The original rubi design was for 33 with stock brakes ... The original Rubicon design was supposed to have 33s, but do we know that the standard brakes were a part of that plan? Many more things would have been different with that
version of the TJ Rubicon. FWiW, stock brakes were barely adequate with 285/75r16's on mine. I doubt a fraction of an inch less tire would have made a big difference. Black Magic brake pads made for a very noticeable improvement. 2003 Rubicon Joined Apr 29, 2013 · 19,046 Posts
Perhaps your brakes were not operating normally Stock has been adequate for years on wife’s 04 rubi with 32.5 and my sport with 33 summer and 31 winter although discs are CJ on the 98 Won’t drive a vehicle with inadequate brakes No indication anywhere that TJ rubi had different than what came out brakes in pipeline so I’ll skip
that magical thinking Course both mine are manual so never braking and accelerating at same time with one foot on brake while other applies gas like some slush box gals tend to Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Joined May 27, 2013 · 7,445 Posts
and i've always felt OEM brakes were inadequate no matter the tire size. its all relative. Joined Oct 5, 2013 · 4,836 Posts
... No indication anywhere that TJ rubi had different than what came out brakes in pipeline so I’ll skip that magical thinking ... The thinking is no less magical than assuming the brakes would have been the same. Jeep never released a factory ~33" tire on a TJ, so we do not know what they would
have done differently or not. Perhaps your brakes were not operating normally. ... Perhaps. Though we do know that there is a fairly wide range in the capability of the stock brakes to handle larger than stock tires. Some can take the added load, some can't. Blaine himself talks about this. .... Won’t drive a vehicle with inadequate brakes ... We should all follow this
thinking regardless of what others say is adequate. 2003 Rubicon Joined Sep 4, 2017 · 612 Posts
I've heard that drilled rotors have a tendency to crack under extreme conditions--hard breaking then a splash of water. I have drilled and slotted rotors on my SRT Charger and they work nicely and can bring the car down from 100mph+ to 65 in a hurry and from 60 to 0 so fast it will make you dizzy. I used powerstop rotors and pads for that car and
haven't had any problems. Slots are to help the gasses escape under heavy use. Holes are also to help the gasses escape but also serve to lighten the rotating mass. If your rig is a trail rig with only a little road time, I wouldn't worry about the brake set-up too much--But, if you drive like I do (about 25K/yr) then you want safe, reliable and interstate travel worthy breaks. For my jeep I will be using a slotted rotor (not drilled) just because it's more durable. Joined Apr 29, 2013 · 19,046 Posts
Funny the Speedo reads dead on with stock gears and 32.5 tires Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Joined Dec 21, 2018 · 845 Posts
I like my slotted rotors. My stopping power went from Oh' Shite! to Holy Shite! With that being said, Its a daily driver 99% of the time and offroad not so much. Its all about compromise over dirt v pavement and staying out of the rear end of the car in front of me during the evening commute. Joined Apr 29, 2013 · 19,046 Posts
Only fools tailgate as brakes don’t improve your reaction time Physics and biology neither make any accommodation for increased number of vehicles on the road even if you live in granola land and most others on road are too damn stupid to realize it Sent from my
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Funny the Speedo reads dead on with stock gears and 32.5 tires Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm aware that the speedo was incorrect for the factory 245/65r16 tires. This was true at least for 2003, but was corrected in later years. It's an interesting and charming vestige from what might have been.
How does that tell us anything about what the brakes may or may not have been during the early development stages? Would the ride height, shocks, drivelines and control arms have also remained the same as stock despite the 33s? What does the speedo calibration suggest about that? Everything else strongly hints at why they didn't follow through with 33s. Too many changes to the production line make work well, which we already know from doing it ourselves. 31s were the compromise. And they were
absolutely a compromise on the existing platform. 2003 Rubicon Is it worth it to get drilled and slotted rotors?Given the choice between drill holes and slots, the drill holes will give you better braking power over slots for normal city/highway driving. This is why high end BMW, Porsche, Corvette, and Mercedes rotors are drilled, not slotted. However, for track racing (high speed stops), slotted rotors are the better choice.
Do drilled and slotted rotors do anything?Drilled and slotted rotors do work particularly well for tow vehicles, trucks, and other cars that carry heavy loads. Heavier vehicles require more energy to come to a stop safely, and this type of brake rotor excels at delivering it. Drilled & slotted brake rotors are also are fine for general use in street vehicles.
How many miles do drilled and slotted rotors last?On average, you can expect to replace your slotted and drilled rotors between 25,000 to 35,000 miles.
Are drilled and slotted rotors better than smooth rotors?Some drivers feel that drilled rotors perform better in wet conditions than any other rotor design. Drilled rotors are lighter than traditional smooth rotors. Because of this, drilled rotors have lower rotational inertia. That means your vehicle can accelerate and stop faster with drilled rotors.
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